Sunday, 25 January 2015

self learning - Proof of the infinite descent principle



Hi everyone I wonder to myself if the next proof is correct. I would appreciate any suggestion.



Proposition: There is not a sequence of natural numbers which is infinite descent.



Proof: Suppose for contradiction that there exists a sequence of natural numbers which is infinite descent. Let (an) be such sequence, i.e., an>an+1 for all natural numbers n.



We claim that if the sequence exists, then ank for all k,nN.




We induct on k. Clearly the base case holds, since each an is a natural number and then an0 for all n. Now suppose inductively that the claim holds for k0, i.e., ank for all nN; we wish to show that also holds for k+1 and thus close the induction. Furthermore, we get a contradiction since ank for all k,nN, implies that the natural numbers are bounded.



an>an+1 since (an) is an infinite descent. By the inductive hypothesis we know that an+1k, so we have an>k and then ank+1.



To conclude we have to show that the claim holds for every n. Suppose there is some n0 such that $a_{n_0}

Thanks :)


Answer



I would argue a different way.




By assumption,
for all n,
an>an+1,
or
anan+1+1.



Therefore,
since
an+1an+2+1,
anan+2+2.




Proceeding by induction,
for any k,
anan+k+k.



But,
set k=an+1.
We get
anan+an+1+an+1>an.




This is the desired contradiction.



This can be stated in this form:
We can only go down as
far as we are up.



Note:
This sort of reminds me
of some of the

fixed point theorems
in recursive function theory.


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