Wednesday, 19 April 2017

calculus of variations - What am I doing wrong with this catenary (variational) problem? (Euler-Lagrange Equation)



In the catenary variational problem we have to find the curve that results from letting a weighted string with fixed length hang between two endpoints, and waiting until it minimizes its potential energy:



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The constrained lagrangian for this problem is:
L(y(x),y(x))=(y(x)λ)1+y(x)2



What is wrong with my approach?



We have to solve the Euler-lagrange Equation, which is:



Ly=ddxLy




So we find the derivatives of L:
Ly=1+y(x)2
Ly=(y(x)λ)y(x)1+y(x)2
ddxLy=y(x)21+y(x)2+y




This results in the Euler-Lagrange equation:
\frac {y'(x)^2}{\sqrt{1+y'(x)^2}}+ y''(x)\cdot (y(x)-\lambda)\frac {1}{({1+y'(x)^2})^{3/2}}=\sqrt{1+y'(x)^2}




What surprised me is that according to this website, the Euler-lagrange equation looks very different:




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There is not even a y''(x) in their Euler-Lagrange equation. What am I doing wrong?



ps. here is another question that I posted where I seem to be making a very similar mistake, so I must fundamentally misunderstand something about the calculus of variations and the Euler-Lagrange Equation.






EDIT: (based on @user121049's comment): I've tried doing what you said, and it gets me to the same result, so this solves my question. (But I'm still not sure about the final solution) :



y''\frac {(y-\lambda)} {1+y'^2}=1 \implies \int y'' \cdot \frac {y'}{1+y'^2}dx=\int \frac {y'}{y-\lambda}dx

Which implies
\int \cdot \frac {y'}{1+y'^2}d(y')=\int \frac {1}{y-\lambda}dy\implies \ln|1+y'^2|=2 \ln(|y-\lambda|^2)+C\implies



1+y'^2=c_!\cdot(y-\lambda)^2



This Answers my question.



Now to solve it further:
substitute z(x)=y(x)-\lambda to get z^2=c_1(1+z')\implies z'=\sqrt{\frac {z^2 -c_1}{c_1}}\implies c_1\int \frac 1 {\sqrt {z^2-a}}dz=x+c_2\implies \ln|\sqrt {z^2-c_1}+x|=\frac x c_1 +c_2\implies
y(x)=z(x)+\lambda =\sqrt {\frac {c_2}{x^2}e^{\frac x {c_1} } +c_1}+\lambda




Is this correct? It doesn't seem like it describes the problem.


Answer



The clue is that your Lagrangian is independent of x. For any Lagrangian function L\equiv L(\,y(x),y'(x)\,):



\frac{dL}{dx} \,=\, \frac{\partial L}{\partial y}\,y' + \frac{\partial L}{\partial y'} y'' \quad\Longrightarrow\quad \frac{\partial L}{\partial y}\,y' \,=\, \frac{dL}{dx} - \frac{\partial L}{\partial y'} y''. \qquad\qquad(*)



From the Euler-Lagrange equations:



\begin{aligned} \frac{\partial L}{\partial y} - \frac{d}{dx}\left(\frac{\partial L}{\partial y'}\right) \;=\; 0\quad&\Longrightarrow \quad y'\frac{\partial L}{\partial y} - y'\frac{d}{dx}\left(\frac{\partial L}{\partial y'}\right) \;=\; 0 \\[0.2cm] \quad&\Longrightarrow\quad \frac{dL}{dx} - \frac{\partial L}{\partial y'} y'' - y'\frac{d}{dx}\left(\frac{\partial L}{\partial y'}\right) \;=\; 0 \\[0.2cm] \quad&\Longrightarrow\quad \frac{dL}{dx} - \frac{d}{dx}\left[y'\frac{\partial L}{\partial y'}\right] \;=\; 0\\[0.2cm] \quad &\Longrightarrow\quad \frac{d}{dx}\left[ L - y'\frac{\partial L}{\partial y'}\right] \;=\; 0 \end{aligned}



where on the second line we substituted in (*). Integrating this, as @user121049 already mentioned, gives you



L - y'\frac{\partial L}{\partial y'} \;=\; a




for some constant a. This is the Beltrami identity; you should be able to use this derivation to help with your problem.


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