I was reading the answers to this question, and I came across the following answer which seems intuitive, but too good to be true:
Typically, the dydx notation is used to denote the derivative, which is defined as the limit we all know and love (see Arturo Magidin's answer). However, when working with differentials, one can interpret dydx as a genuine ratio of two fixed quantities.
Draw a graph of some smooth function f and its tangent line at x=a. Starting from the point (a,f(a)), move dx units right along the tangent line (not along the graph of f). Let dy be the corresponding change in y.
So, we moved dx units right, dy units up, and stayed on the tangent line. Therefore the slope of the tangent line is exactly dydx. However, the slope of the tangent at x=a is also given by f′(a), hence the equation dydx=f′(a)
holds when dy and dx are interpreted as fixed, finite changes in the two variables x and y. In this context, we are not taking a limit on the left hand side of this equation, and dydx is a genuine ratio of two fixed quantities. This is why we can then write dy=f′(a)dx.
By Brendan Cordy
Answer
The conclusion is right, but you should not understand dydx that way. When you do what you have done it is written ΔyΔx.
If you do what you have explained and take the fixed values, observe that you can get closer to a on the tangent and do the same again.
A derivative of a sufficiently nice function is saying that no matter how close you get to a using your tangent principle, the result is going to be the same. In that sense you are right, you can take any fixed value on the tangent, but fixing something is less general than saying no matter what fixed value on the tangent you take.
Observe as well that the way you construct a tangent is not something that is logically above the definition of the derivative so you could say: we know how to construct a tangent and then we can argue about the consequences. In general, drawing a tangent and finding first derivative are equivalent.
When a function is sufficiently nice all things are clearer, but you must define differentiability so that it is applicable to a wider range of problems.
You need to notice that turning ΔyΔx into dydx and approaching one and the same value is in the core of the definition of having a derivative.
Believe or not, the way you have defined a derivative is applicable in another theory: the theory of chaos, since for many chaotic curves you cannot draw a tangent. Instead you take two close points find the distance and calculate ΔyΔx. In many cases you get a fixed value as you approach dydx, although it is not possible to draw a tangent in the classical sense. Even when you cannot get a fixed value you make some averaging and still get something useful.
Basically dydx=lim and that is the way you should understand it.
But yes, you can find a derivative the way you have described for many nice behaving functions.
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