Tuesday, 11 July 2017

logarithms - What is the difference in clearing the exponent?



If I have an equation, like this:



km=mk,



I have been taught that I must apply natural logarithm, but others have taught me that I must apply the common logarithm.



Then, what should I use?




mln(k)=kln(m), Natural logarithm (base e)?



mlog(k)=klog(m), Common logarithm (base 10)?



I guess, the only difference is that:



Natural logarithm will leave the answer in terms of e and common logarithm, will leave the answer in terms of 10, but I'm not sure about this and I need a really good explanation, when it's convenient to use one and the other.


Answer



km=mkmlogbk=klogam will be true no matter what base b you choose. And as logbk an logbm will always be in the same proportion (logbklogbm=logaklogam for all legitimate a,b) it doesn't matter which you pick.




Unless you are doing scientific notation where units and measurements are specifically designed to be represented in powers of 10s there is nothing advantageous about 10 over, say, 17. And klog17m=mlog17k is a perfectly true and legitimate statement.



But if you are doing scientific notation where units are based on powers of 10 then log10 has an obvious advantage.



If you are doing anything that might even remotely no matter how obliquely involve differentiation or integration (or even tangents or rates of change) you should use ln as it is ... natural. So that is why it is conventional to default to natural logs.



I'm surprised though that no-one has suggested logs based k or m. That has the advantage of reducing an equation with two logarithms to one. m=klogkm and k=mlogmk which could often help us. Although in this case it doesn't)



Use whatever base you like. Sometimes there will be practical advantages to use a specific base (Solve for 327x=y8137 just screams for base 3) but usually there won't be. The convention is math is base e. I imagine im must sciences is is also base e but I imagine there are same instances where convention is 10.




But it doesn't matter.



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327x=y8137



log3327x=log3(y8137)



27x=81log3y+7




x=3log3y+727.



But you could just as well (but not as easily solve it with natural logs.



ln327x=ln(y8137)



27xln3=81lny+7ln3.



x=81lny+7ln327ln3




=3lnyln3+727. The same answer.



And if we had use common log wed have gotten.



x=3logylog3+727.



All the same.


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