Monday 14 March 2016

analysis - Request for example of a value of limit of a sequence where sequence does not converge



In
Limit of the nested radical $\sqrt{7+\sqrt{7+\sqrt{7+\cdots}}}$
Timothy Wagner gave a correct answer that was questioned for not having shown that the limit exists in the first place. My question is, are there any examples were a value of limit can be derived although the limit does not exist? Please note I am not questioning that limit must exist before it is exhibited but that, how a value for limit can be exhibited if the limit doesn't exist? Is that not a contradiction? On one hand we have a value for the limit and on the other hand the proof that it can't exist!



Please give an example were a more general form of convergence does not account for the calculated value. Otherwise it seems as if the value was hinting that the notion of convergence required adjustment and not the calculated value that required justification.


Answer



(This should be a comment under Carl's answer.)




@Arjan: One very general way in which to formalize your idea of "possible definitions of convergence" is that of Banach limits. Indeed, a Banach limit is essentially a convergence notion for bounded sequences satisfying a minimal set of reasonable conditions.



Banach limits do exist---this was proved by Banach himself as a way to show off his Hahn-Banach theorem---and all Banach limits agree with the usual limit on sequences that converge. More interestingly, the set of bounded sequences on which all Banach limits agree is strictly larger than the set of convergence sequences, and it was determined explicitly by [Lorentz, G. G. A contribution to the theory of divergent sequences. Acta Math. 80, (1948). 167--190. MR0027868]



Now, the result of Lorentz implies that not all Banach limits agree on all sequences (in other words, that there is more than one Banach limit) It follows from this that there are divergent sequences which can be assigned at least two different limits under different extensions of the notion of convergence.


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