Friday, 21 June 2013

abstract algebra - Determine the irreducible polynomial for alpha=sqrt3+sqrt5 over mathbbQ(sqrt10)



I've already found that the irreducible polynomial of α over Q is x416x2+4. I've also found that Q(3+5)=Q(3,5) and that Q(3,5,10)=Q(2,3,5). Since [Q(10):Q]=2 and [Q(3,5):Q]=4, [Q(2,3,5):Q(3,5)] must be either 1 or 2.



I know it's 2 but I'm having a hard time proving that Q(3,5)Q(2,3,5). I'm trying to show that 2Q(3,5) but I'm not having much luck.




The solution in the link below uses a theorem of Galois theory we haven't covered yet so I don't feel comfortable using it. Here is what we have covered that I suspect is relevant but haven't figured out how to use yet:




Let K and K be extensions of the same field F. An isomorphism φ:KK that restricts to the identity on F is an isomorphism of field extensions.



Let F be a field and α and β be elements of field extensions K/F and L/F. Suppose α an β are algebraic over F. There is an isomorphism of fields σ:F(α)F(β) that is the identity on F and that sends α if and only if the irreducible polynomials for \alpha and \beta over F are equal.



Let \varphi:K\to K^\prime be an isomorphism of field extensions of F, and let f be a polynomial with coefficients in F. Let \alpha be a root of f in K, and let \alpha^\prime=\varphi(\alpha) be its image in K^\prime. Then \alpha^\prime is also a root of f.





If I start by assuming that \mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{3},\sqrt{5})=\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{2},\sqrt{3},\sqrt{5}) then I suspect the three statements above will lead to a contradiction somewhere. I just don't have a good firm grasp of how to put them into practice yet.



Any help is appreciated. Thanks,


Answer



Suppose by contradiction that



\sqrt{2}=a+b\sqrt{3}+c\sqrt{5}+d \sqrt{15} \,.



Squaring both sides and using the fact that 1, \sqrt{3}, \sqrt{5}, \sqrt{15} are linearly independent over Q you get




2=a^2+3b^2+5c^2+15d^2 \,.
ab+5cd =0 \,.
ac+3bd=0 \,.
ad+bc=0 \,.



From the last two equations we get



3bd^2=-acd=bc^2 \,.



Since 3d^2=c^2 has no rational roots we get that b=0.




It follows that



2=a^2+5c^2+15d^2 \,.
5cd =0 \,.
ac=0 \,.
ad=0 \,.



From the last two equations it follows that two of a,c,d must be 0, and then you get from the first equation that x^2 \in \{ 2, \frac{2}{5}, \frac{2}{15} \} where x is the nonzero one... Contradiction with x \in Q.


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